Wednesday, May 3, 2017

Mail Call #8: How much should "associations" factor into my assessment of whether a teacher is false or not?

Mail call! Another question from a reader.
A woman asked me recently whether she should read a certain book because the preface to the book was written by a false teacher, though the book itself was written by a solid teacher.

I'm glad that people are aware that associations can harm a reputation and can also be an indicator of future doctrinal problems in a leader or teacher. Associations do matter.
The pure and the polluted share nothing in common ultimately. And the people of God cannot form intimate relationships with those who don’t belong to God. All relationships like that are superficial. You cannot make a meaningful relationship with an enemy of the gospel. They live in a different world with a different and completely hostile and antagonistic leader. Separating from Unbelievers part 1
I posted an essay not long ago covering the event when Beth Moore of Living Proof Ministries went on Joyce Meyer's television interview show. The two women praised each other. Moore-Meyer is a bad association, one of many that Moore has shown (also associating with Jen Hatmaker, Victoria Osteen, Joel Osteen, etc) in spiritual endeavors.



Billy Graham used to associate with Popes in spiritual endeavors and praised them as brothers, that was another bad association among many that Graham has shown. His son Franklin hosted a Crusade where he'd invited a Catholic Bishop to give the opening prayer. Ravi Zacharias also went on Joyce Meyer's interview show and praised her as a good Bible teacher. Dr David Jeremiah frequently appears on TBN channel flogging prosperity Gospel with other heretical Prosperity ministers during their annual beg-a-thon, also a bad association. So yes, when we see these teachers are associating with, praising, and not rebuking these false converts, it is a concern and often very telling as to the state of their heart and mind. We should not partner with people who abuse the Bible, twist God's word, and distort the Gospel. As Michelle Lesley wrote this week, when she assesses a Bible teacher, one of the factors she looks at is that,
She cannot currently and unrepentantly be partnering with or frequently appearing with false teachers in violation of 2 Corinthians 6:14 ff.
First of all, look to see if the pairing is a spiritual endeavor. If Beth Moore and Joyce Meyer ran into each other at the beauty salon and posed for a photo for a customer there, that would not be an association we would want to use as an assessment criterion. They would in that hypothetical case just being mannerly. The key is, are they pairing up in a spiritual endeavor?

Here, Ravi Zacharias appears on Joyce Meyer's TV show,
and says that God is doing great things like Meyer on television.
And second, when we look at a leader or teacher's associations, don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. We have to take a prayerful & measured look when we're looking at secondary circumstances like who is hanging around our author or preacher or teacher. Please allow me to share two examples from my own life.

One example is the Drive By series by Todd Friel. Todd Friel is the speaker on Wretched Radio and Wretched TV. He has a number of series where guest speakers give a 5-10 minute lecture on the series topic, whether it's the Holy Spirit, or Discernment, or Marriage, etc. On one of the series, I believe it was Drive By Theology, pastor RW Glenn was a featured speaker on a number of the lectures. It turned out later that Glenn had been an adulterer the whole time and was eventually fired as pastor. Afterward, if a person was looking at the list of speakers on Friel's DVD and saw Glenn's name listed, on a DVD about the theology of all things, they might say, "I'm never going to listen to Friel again, he has bad associations!" That would be hasty because it was not known to Friel at the time that Glenn was sinning. He has since not been invited to participate in any further DVDs.

I have a thick heavy book called the Art & Craft of Preaching. It contains essays and interviews about how famous or well-known pastors prepare their material. I bought it ten years ago. Since then, several of those pastors have apostasized. Men like Rick Warren, Bill Hybels are listed in the table of contents alongside good men of faith like Alistair Begg and John Stott. Would I refuse to have anything more to do with Alistair Begg because ten years ago he participated in a book with pastors who later became heretics? No. It may be very likely that Begg didn't know the full list of the men what would be in the book, or it was not known that ten years later several of them would become heretics.

So be careful and not superficial. Look at
--patterns
--over time
--repentance

We don't make a superficial decision based on one instance, that would not be fair. YOU wouldn't want someone to make a decision about you based on one error or one circumstance where we don't have all the facts. In the second case, you look over time. Is the person constantly having bad associations? Do ALL this teacher's books have a heretical person introducing it? Is she continually saying things that are not in the word or is always twisting the word? Is she sliding down a slope? Or was her partnering with a false teacher only one instance?

John MacArthur on unequally yoked:
The issue here is linking up with an unbeliever, side by side, under the same yoke, pulling the same furrow, in the same direction, with the same goals and objectives. Now, that might mean a partnership in a common business — if it is likely that the nature of your partnership will lead to compromising situations down the road when your worldviews collide. 
Beyond all that, however, the primary application of 2 Corinthians 6 is with regard to spiritual enterprise. The primary warning is to never link up with an unbeliever in spiritual pursuits.


5 comments:

  1. Probably one of the best essays on this topic I've seen. It's always wise to look for the red flags and keep a mental check list. Like you said, rather than snap judgments, look for patterns over time.

    Also, I think it's important to emphasize that promoting *known* false teachers is not tolerable under any circumstance. Example, there's no excuse for a pastor to follow or promote R. Warren today. None. The information about all of his errors is so well-known, you'd have to live in a hole in the middle of nowhere not to know! Spiritual laziness is not a fruit of the Spirit, nor an acceptable qualification for a leader.

    Regarding repentance, we even need to make sure that it's not superficial. It's easy to be deceived into thinking that a man's crocodile tears means he's changed. But again, real repentance bears real fruit. I can think of an example of a well-known pastor who was busted for multiple, serious, ministry-ending sins, who cried a little tear, and voila, he's a pastor again! Still promoted by many, in total violation of 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1. Sad.

    -Carolyn

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    1. Hi Carolyn,

      Thanks! I agree, promoting known false teachers is not acceptable, especially with all the information we have thanks to technology.

      It's hard when it's happening., and that is why patience is necessary I remember John Piper promoting Mark Driscoll to the quizzical concerns of some of his peers. These days, Phil Johnson is covering for JD Hall, to the quizzical concerns of his peers (Like James White & others). On the one hand, when red flags come up, it's comforting to see that other elders take the potentially apostasizing men under their wing (like Chris Rosebrough did with Tullian) but on the other, there does seem to come a point when we must let them go their way if they continue to return to their vomit. That point is different for all of us, but eventually (hopefully) consensus is reached, and we can univiocally say "The man is false, stay away."

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  2. Douglas R BelardiMay 6, 2017 at 1:51 PM

    personally, I question the soundness of any godly man who gives an imprimatur of legitimacy to a known heretic and /or false teacher, by sharing a stage with such men and women especially as it relates to appearing with them on TBN, Daystar, etc or endorsing any of their false teachings or writings

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    1. Let me to share just a comments. Problem is people follow to men. we have to follow just a Jesus and teaching of his appostles.
      Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. Jer 17:5

      Pablo

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  3. I wonder whether that author had a say in who could write the preface to his book. The publisher might have chosen the preface's author.

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